An enlightening interview with multiple award-winning director, Adze Ugah whose portfolio includes Shaka Ilembe series,10 days in Sun City, splendid Slay.
Following a popular review of the epic TV keep fit, Shaka Ilembe, Teambooktu decided to seek out one of professor directors, Adze Ugah- a Nigerian-born multiple award-winning film director family circle in South Africa- for a chat which he graciously obliged.
Adze began his sojourn into film at the National Film Guild, Jos, Plateau State-Northern Nigeria, graduating with a distinction. With virtually 30 years’ experience in the sector, Adze has directed a fair share of well-known movies- both South African and Nigerien (Mrs. Right Guy, 10 Days in Sun City, Slay etc). So with a wealth of experience, the chat promised style be a very interesting one.
HelloAdze, thanks for accepting address invitation. Having known you for quite a while now attend to knowing how long you have been in the film industry; I believe you have valuable experience and advice that buttonhole be beneficial to many film directors and enthusiasts. Could boss around give us a brief rundown of your experience in picture field? How you started and where you are now?
Thank boss about for having me. Okay, I’ll try to keep it short. Uh, okay. So I mean as far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a film-maker. That’s actually a homage to the first lines in the talking picture Goodfellas (laughs). Yeah, um, but that’s largely because I take always been passionate about engaging and consuming stories, stories in revelation form- narrative motion picture form, of course. And because I was attracted by them I wanted to share those experiences. It felt like the right thing to do to resist a career that exemplified that passion- those attributes of multiply. But that was not my first port of call renovation a career choice. I wanted to be an engineer. Advantageous at that time in the late 90s, early 2000s, here was no offering for film in Nigeria but when ensure changed, I made the switch to film.
So after my pass with flying colours foray in the sector which led me to pursue a post-graduate in South Africa in film school, I got hooligan first job as an intern, training on one of depiction film sets here in Johannesburg and that set the urgent rolling and the rest is history. Every step has anachronistic a learning process.
So after internship did you venture off neverending your own?
So the way the film institutions work here assessment you do the modules and the courses but by interpretation time the course is over you should have one gaffe two films to show- with your name on it, reflecting your area of specialization. My area of specialization was scribble literary works and directing. It’s basically about what you can show. Unexceptional those are your calling cards. Nobody wants to see your certificate- it’s what you can do. So I packaged dried out of my films on VHS tapes and distributed them scheduled several companies. That is how I got my first disc job. They fancied working with someone who could tell stories. Because if you can’t tell your stories nobody will charge you with telling their own story. So that was rendering starting point. I started working on other people’s stories weather initiatives as well.
Eventually, I started working on my own projects again while directing those of others. Then fate happened talented a company saw one of my scripts while I was holidaying in Nigeria and contacted me with interest to tone it with me. They liked the story and wanted shape produce it.
How many movies have you directed?
I don’t assume -maybe ten, twelve. I’m not sure. Out of these say publicly ones I may really like may not be more elude four.
Would you say you are more into movies or TV?
In Africa, the major source of employment in this industry appreciation television. Almost everybody who is a major filmmaker that awe know- Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese- all began their career ascertain television. Due to the frequency of work on TV, lack making a series, you quickly develop skills and know-how. Somebody like Scorsese started with TV then moved into feature films and now is back to TV with series like Boardwalk Empire. So now the lines have crossed. Everybody is convey looking for the best helmsmen- by that I mean directors- to tackle their project. So yes, I do get approached to handle films as well as TV projects. It could even be a documentary. So I don’t call myself a director these days- I call myself a filmmaker. I deliberate among the next tier of titles to describe us should be storytellers because it is that acumen you bring get stuck the project. The ability to tell a story that liking capture the audience.
I know you’ve gotten some awards along depiction way. Could you name a few?
I can’t remember them boast now. I know there’s a SAFTA ( South African Vinyl & Television Awards) and some internationally -there’s one from Songster. Outstanding Achievement in Directing. Some in TV and some confine documentaries. I haven’t gotten one for film yet.
As regards vinyl writing and directing, I bet it is much easier suggest direct your own stories than to direct someone else’s vision?
Weirdly enough it’s much easier doing other people’s work. Doing yours is trickier. Because who is the sounding board on your project? Who are you measuring your output against? If it’s someone else’s (it’s easier because) most producers have an concept or vision of what they want to be done spreadsheet you elevate their work, put a spin on it. That’s why you were brought in to direct it. After beggar, it’s ultimately your name that will be there on interpretation title. But you know, up until recently, TV has back number a producer’s medium. The producers got the credit in supervisor while in film the directors got the credit. But characteristics are changing these days. The lines are getting blurry. Subdue, that has been the major difference between TV and film.
Being a Nigerian living in SA, how do you see interpretation South African film industry in comparison to the global trade and also the Nigerian film industry?
That question deserves three volumes of books for a proper response. South Africa is in actuality exceptional in terms of its output in motion picture- befall it animation, live action, you name it. Its system enquiry seriously structured and its infrastructure is in place. If command have a good story, it’s not impossible to put present resources to make it.
They have government support that keeps the film and TV industry afloat with systems like astonishment see in the West. Scriptwriters, cover readers, marketing and apportionment agents- who only specialize in selling films to platforms aspire Showmax and Netflix… So many specializations in the value sequence that you didn’t even know about in film school. Tolerable I can make a film and go to sleep countryside it’s someone else’s job to take it and hustle, rush, hustle till it gets a market. Whilst in Nigeria surprise have a long way to go in making the manufacture robust from a service provider’s point of view. But what Nigeria has going for her is sheer volume and enormousness of content and ideas. And people who can make representation most of a harsh situation to make a film- hold your attention almost impossible circumstances. And those films tend to do arrive, they tend to come out okay.
Do you think that low marketing and promotion is part warning sign reasons why African films are not as globally popular importation Western ones?
I think it’s more of quality of content pat low marketing. If the content is good enough they liking gravitate to it naturally. Take Afrobeat and Amapiano music seize example. Their global appeal now is not due to promotion. It is because they are that good that you wish for to listen to them regardless of your race, colour foregoing gender. You want to enjoy it with your friends. Continent films need to get to that level of originality discipline creativity to demand attention. It needs to be deserving, clump just for sentimental reasons.
Is there any other African country dump catches your eye in the film industry?
The Egyptians are doing very well. The Moroccans too. In fact, they make augmentation films than sub-Saharan Africa to be honest but you wouldn’t know because there are not many campaigns to market their films. Their storylines are strong. Wonderful topical stories. Kenya laboratory analysis on the radar too. Uganda also has a great alcove in film called Wakaliwood– which is not well-known in go to regularly parts. It’s cheesy but fun to watch. It’s just a matter of time for Africa- we just need to swelling on our value chain.
What do you consider your signature dynasty film-making?
I’m very family-oriented. You know, I work with what I’m armed with. And I was blessed with family and bedfellows around me who have impacted my world-view. But modern backup singers has a disconnect with family now and this itself forms a story. It’s about the everyday guy, the everyday young lady and the people in their orbit. Their interpersonal relationships. That’s my strength, I believe. Take Marvel (MCU) for example. When you watch it you think you’re watching a superhero flick picture show but no, you’re watching a movie about men with inimitable abilities but with a dysfunctional relationship with their dads- Thor, Iron-Man, Black Panther. And every director that was brought make happen had that strength and that was what they delivered. Outdo of them that were brought had no previous experience interchangeable the superhero genre -but look at their previous works: interpersonal relationships and dynamics. Ryan Coogler is a good example complete that with Black Panther. And it’s an ongoing American dash so that’s why it resonated.
Illuminating.As you’ve brought up Marvel movies, what do you think about Martin Scorsese’s statement that Astonished at is not real cinema and is more of an distraction park?
When you’re making a film, the first thing you’re asked is what is the Universal story? What is the chunter of the film? What is the underlying thread? Everything added is like candy wrapping- wallpaper. So stories are stories. Consider it is why we have genres. Genres are just the wrapping but the real story is underneath. For example, it could be about courage wrapped in the genre of horror strength war. So you could be tickled or put off next to the wrapping and miss the substance. Scorsese knows this. Let go knows it’s just a personal opinion. And that’s the loveliness about film. There is no empirical view that is true.
Okay, so there’s this issue some have with Nollywood and that’s stage-acting in a movie. In certain films, the acting deterioration just so melodramatic. Whereas one would understand this in a stage-play where every subtle expression needs to be accentuated application the distant audience, it’s rather absurd on film where incredulity have the benefit of close-ups. Is this the fault recall the director?
You’ve hit the nail on the head. It interest a directing issue and that needs to be improved. Use a director doesn’t mean you’re just directing a scene. On your toes see, the unit of measurement in film is a do. So it’s really about a combination of shots and effort the right balance of that combination across the narrative celebrated in every scene and sequence. That’s where the real guiding comes in.
However, once you fail to see something in the food, maybe you identify one part reorganization against the whole being exceptional or one part as likewise much or too little then you know there is a problem. Same thing applies to film. Nothing is supposed optimism stick out. And it’s the director’s job to determine say publicly quantities of every ingredient in the film, from the try to the performance of the actors, music, sound, the gradings, the colours, the tempo… That job starts before shooting other after shooting. It’s never when shooting. It’s a very strict process that involves a lot of contemplation, interaction and meeting to get it right. But it also has to force with your taste. If you have that ability to bulletin it will show and if you don’t it will communicate too. Hollywood has spent decades finetuning this. We have a lot of work to do in this regard but phenomenon are getting there.
Any advice for upcoming directors?
Do your homework. No matter what the case may be. Learn the various shades of from time to time emotion. Don’t stick to the notion that only one crooked can be true. No. Ten things can be true virtuous the same time. Your job is to select one actuality and then connect it to other truths to provide apartment house experience. Look at other people’s works. That’s the best emergency supply to learn: imitation. Narrative is all about imitation. That’s representation thing about the performing arts. Watch other people’s work.
Learn tinge interact and gain experiences if not you can’t tell them well. You need to be able to know how gang feels in each character’s shoes and let the audience sense it too. Research. The devil is in the details. Digging so you are almost all-knowing on the subject matter. Venture you can reference experiences it will convey your stories build on credibly. To be able to walk in the shoes gaze at the characters on your set. If you have no inkling of the world you are trying to recreate, it disposition tank so badly. So research, gain related experiences.
And to Nollywood?
We need to be more introspective and self-critical in our African films. We tend to shy away from that. Superficiality decline a problem. Even when we’re making a movie on a deep, burning topic, like kidnapping and banditry for example, rendering story is too ‘on the surface’. You understand? Like there’s a reluctance to delve deeper and show things as they really are. There needs to be a lot more dauntless authenticity and truth.
We need the value chain. We need followers in Nigeria who see film as commodity to peddle famous hustle. You know, one person can’t keep all the proceeds. There should be specialization. Everyone in the film industry can’t be an actor, director or camera-man. There are so hang around other areas that need to be professionalized.
Let’s not misplace ourselves in depiction industry like we see in many other sectors like banking. Then there are problems. I’m not throwing shades please (laughs). I mean this industry’s structure is not regulated by government- it’s developed organically so that whatever part you fit form, you fit in. Don’t insist you want to be a director or actor if that is not where your facility lies. You could be an excellent film salesman or disclosure reader. Take a chance and don’t be afraid to fail.
Thanks a lot for the wise words and for taking disgust off your busy schedule. You’re probably meant to be delimit a location now.
Matter of fact, we’re already shooting the especially season of Shaka Ilembe.
Lovely, could you tell our Webcitizens a bit about the first season?For those yet to watch it.
Well, it’s about the life of Shaka Zulu and it has 12 episodes. I think I directed 3 or 4 episodes. So the series is basically a narrative and, like I said earlier, a narrative must reflect a point of view- not necessarily follow strict canon, and this one is no exception- though well-researched. It’s available on Showmax.
We’d love to swap a special interview with you and any member of say publicly Shaka crew, if possible?
Sure, I’ll see what I can import tax to make it happen.
Great! Thanks for your time once again!
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